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Filthy NHS hospitals

I notice the MRSA epidemic, 5000 deaths pa (minimum) is now the fault of the patients for bringing too much stuff in and wanting their dirty relatives to visit at all hours.

Nothing to to do with not one of the legions of management that infest the NHS actually having the balls to insist the places are kept clean..
The Adam Smith Institute Blog
puts a different spin on it.

MRSA is entirely a disease of our state health system. Compare BMI Healthcare: it runs 47 private hospitals, treating a million patients a year. How many of them have left with MRSA in the blood? None. Ever.

I would be interested in knowing how many cases of MRSA occur in Forces hospitals - I would bet not many!


Isn't the answer looking us right in the face - given that NuLabour wants to create a proper nanny state, can't they just ban it?

I don't think there are any Forces hospitals left. Successive regimes have decided that they were too expensive. Tommy has to rely on the NHS just like everyone else, poor sod.

The Duchess of Kent's at Catterick was the last. There are military wings in civilian hospitals now for example at Frimley Green but the military nurses look after civilians as well! Nice way for the NHS to have part of their budget paid by the MoD......!

There are no service hospitals now. I work along side Army, Navy and Air Force nurses in an NHS hospital, which I probably shouldn't name.

It is theorecically a good system, with both sides benefitting. The benefits to the Nash are obvious, but there are benefits to the services as well. It is easier to maintain the clinical skills of service nurses in a bigger hospital with a wider source of patients. By using the Nash servicemen are less likely to be sent miles away from their family when they need hospitalisation.

But it does have costs as well. Many servicemen feel that it grossly undermined military discipline. People joining the army to train clinically do about 8 weeks basic training and are then posted to the NHS, where they essentially become civilians again. There is a strong sense among the old NCOs that junior servicemen resent being deployed in the field.
Most service people I've spoken to would like to operate their own hospital, even if there was only one united services hospital in the country. They are scathing of NHS management, though they are of their own as well.

There are disadvantages for the NHS too. During the Gulf War the two wards run by the military were emptied of nurses and I'm sure the same thing happened in every NHS hospital with service nurses too.

The trust I work in did very badly in the MRSA league tables and although there are some mitigating circumstances (They are a big city hospital taking referals from dictrict hospitals in the area, where many patients have already contracted MRSA)I think you are substantially correct in what you say. I saw the article too and commented on it here http://salisburypages.blogspot.com/2004/07/where-did-smell-of-disinfectant-go.html
Unfortunately I haven't learned to do links yet.

My mum had a Navy surgeon when she was operated on in Derriford in Plymouth three years ago.

She's an ex-light blue and my dad is a war veteran so I reckon that's fair.

I had this link wrapped around 'war veteran' but it was discarded during posting:


Do you think that all of the leftist idiots calling for Universal Healthcare here in the States will learn from the failings in Canada and the UK? No chance.

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