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Piss Poor Policing

Others have mentioned it but here it is worth repeating and giving the link:

Crimes and Cultures

Britain has one of the highest crime rates in the developed world, and one of the most ineffective police forces, according to a new study from Civitas, the independent social policy think-tank.
In Cultures and Crimes: Policing in Four Nations, Norman Dennis and George Erdos compare the policing methods of Britain, France, Germany and the USA. All four countries witnessed steep rises in crime and anti-social behaviour following the cultural revolution of the 1960s, which broke down shared norms of acceptable behaviour. However, in spite of the fact that they have very different policing traditions, the USA, France and Germany have all made a more effective job of combating rising crime than Britain. By the beginning of the 1990s, France, Germany and the United States had begun to confront their modern problems of crime and disorder, while England's influential public intellectuals continued to claim that the 'crime problem' was mainly a figment of the imagination of the old and the ignorant. The result of this 'treason of the intellectuals' was that England, from being a society remarkably free of crime and disorder, especially from the middle of the nineteenth to the middle of the twentieth century, by the late 1990s had a worse record than either France, Germany or the United States, even though each of these nations had far less favourable histories than England's of democratic law-abiding consensus....

In 1964 in England and Wales there were 72,000 domestic burglaries; in 2003/04 there were 402,000.
In 1964 there were 3,000 robberies; in 2003/04 there were 101,000.
There are now five domestic burglaries for every one domestic burglary in 1964, in spite of a great intensification of security measures being taken by private householders to protect their own homes. However, on the streets, where a person's security of person and property depends not on his own efforts, but upon the ability of the police and bystanders to keep good order, the deterioration of the situation has been by many magnitudes still worse. There were no fewer than thirty robberies of personal property in 2003/04 for every one in 1964.

In 1955 fewer than 500,000 crimes were recorded by the police in England and Wales. By the end of the 1960s there were over 1.5 million. By the end of the 1970s there were 2.7 million.
Over the longer term, the rise in crime is so spectacular as to be difficult to comprehend.

In 1893 the annual number of recorded robberies in England and Wales fell below 400. There were then never as many as 400 recorded robberies a year in the whole of England and Wales until 1941. In stark contrast, from February to December 2001 there were never as few as 400 recorded robberies a month in the London Borough of Lambeth alone.


Comments

Your police are not problem. I remember to read that the socialist govenment was interfering with the police. They are not permitted to arrest immigrants, the socialists introduced Political Corectness and scrapped height requirements.

can you imagine a 1.5 meter woman policeman trying to arrest anyone other than a 1.4 meter girl?

The real problem in england is not the police(bobbies)its their parlement they have a bunch of liberal dim-witted do gooders trying to push through insane ideas and ludicrise spare the rod poppycock nonsense or what the british would call cock and bull stories

HM Plod are too busy persecuting motorists and the last few remaining gun owners - that and investigating racist remarks and other "thought crimes".

Easier, safer and more profitable than taking on Jamaican Yardies after all...............

It's true we can throw the blame at the police all day, and they will respond with 'we have our hands tied and were limited to what we can do' - that is also true. But, as a nation that boost about our heritage we forget that we are all at essence human beings. We all could stand our ground and push for better methods on dealing with particular crime induced attacks on property and people, whether where in the Police Force or not. At the core of the debates we read about the way Britain's development or underdevelopment and what makes for a better world - we forget to mention that behind every incident there are groups or individuals who either have good values and morels and those that don't. Policing is to define the behavioural groups and destinguish what makes a good citizen and what doe's not. There are times when they seem unable to destinguish where that line crosses ( law and order derived from discipline and unruliness by the lack of it) for most of us we know the barriers and perceive them pretty clearly so as not to overstep the mark. Our conduct as citizens defines how we should be treated either way. Then we can expect, or at least we thought we could expect to be treated in accordance with governing and policing rulings for the greater good of all. However, there seems to be too many loop holes for people displaying inconsistance and anti-social behaviour to crawl through, opening-up new ways for others to follow - as the enforcement agency cannot predict accurately enough where another hole will open in their somewhat secure policy programs governing the Policing staffs procedures on resolving crime and disorder. The simple fact remains that if we supported the people who have been raised with good morel values and displayed to them more openly that the Police Force regardless of current laws, that they would Police the streets and neighbourhoods more conductively and tolerated less of so-called society problems and anti-social behaviourisms, we may begin to reduce the overal affects society has to bare. We could begin to build communial respect for officers and regain an element of honouribilty towards them. Too many people are reporting back that poor policing has reduced their areas into slums, and that with the right incentives they would come forward and re-establish their lost respect for the force. But, as it presently procedes, there will be little breakthrough in human relationships and the Police force. God only knows when we as a people will define the boundaries and stick to the better solutions to serve all mankind....!

It's true we can throw the blame at the police all day, and they will respond with 'we have our hands tied and were limited to what we can do' - that is also true. But, as a nation that boost about our heritage we forget that we are all at essence human beings. We all could stand our ground and push for better methods on dealing with particular crime induced attacks on property and people, whether where in the Police Force or not. At the core of the debates we read about the way Britain's development or underdevelopment and what makes for a better world - we forget to mention that behind every incident there are groups or individuals who either have good values and morels and those that don't. Policing is to define the behavioural groups and destinguish what makes a good citizen and what doe's not. There are times when they seem unable to destinguish where that line crosses ( law and order derived from discipline and unruliness by the lack of it) for most of us we know the barriers and perceive them pretty clearly so as not to overstep the mark. Our conduct as citizens defines how we should be treated either way. Then we can expect, or at least we thought we could expect to be treated in accordance with governing and policing rulings for the greater good of all. However, there seems to be too many loop holes for people displaying inconsistance and anti-social behaviour to crawl through, opening-up new ways for others to follow - as the enforcement agency cannot predict accurately enough where another hole will open in their somewhat secure policy programs governing the Policing staffs procedures on resolving crime and disorder. The simple fact remains that if we supported the people who have been raised with good morel values and displayed to them more openly that the Police Force regardless of current laws, that they would Police the streets and neighbourhoods more conductively and tolerated less of so-called society problems and anti-social behaviourisms, we may begin to reduce the overal affects society has to bare. We could begin to build communial respect for officers and regain an element of honouribilty towards them. Too many people are reporting back that poor policing has reduced their areas into slums, and that with the right incentives they would come forward and re-establish their lost respect for the force. But, as it presently procedes, there will be little breakthrough in human relationships and the Police force. God only knows when we as a people will define the boundaries and stick to the better solutions to serve all mankind....!

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