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Concrete them over - part 5

Guardian Unlimited Politics | Special Reports | Railways face biggest strike since 1926

The biggest rail stoppage since the 1926 general strike could take place next month after a decision by the main rail unions to ballot tens of thousands of workers yesterday.

Quick seize the moment! Close the whole bloody lot down - Face up to the facts:

Transport Watch UK - Road/rail comparisons across the uk

Road/rail comparisons - Summary findings
Very much against public and political sentiment roads managed to avoid congestion would offer 3 to 4 times the capacity to move freight and people at one quarter the cost of rail while using 20% to 25% less energy and reducing casualty costs suffered by rail passengers by a factor of 2.
The problem with the proposition is that (a) it is so very much against expectation (b) the numbers are so overwhelming as to inspire disbelief rather than belief (c) few people have ever seen a motor road managed to avoid congestion - the UK road network is (with the exception of motorways and some modern single carriageways) a collection of access roads never designed for motor traffic (d) rail is so romantic.

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Where does the romantic/pig-headed attachment to steel-on-steel traction come from? May I take it that the case for trams is also feeble?

Intercity rail is faster than "express coaches" and much more comfortable. Can you imagine National Express offering a dining car? Your dinner would be in your neighbour's lap on the first roundabout.

Sam, that's another puzzle. Why does no-one offer an inter-city bus service where the bus seats are roomy and the driver promises not to try to throw you out of your seat?

i've been saying for 20 years: tarmac the railways and use them for trucks and buses and lets get the roads back for proper use .... and get those muppets at rail a proper job

Presumably because anyone with more than a bus fare to spare takes the train, a taxi, or drives himself?

It's a good question, though. You could easily imagine a "first class" coach that would have half as many seats in the same space, would have the suspension from an American limo rather than a Hungarian tractor, and would charge three times as much for a ticket.

Presumably because anyone with more than a bus fare to spare takes the train, a taxi, or drives himself?

It's a good question, though. You could easily imagine a "first class" coach that would have half as many seats in the same space, would have the suspension from an American limo rather than a Hungarian tractor, and would charge three times as much for a ticket. Presumably it would be stuck on the existing roads, though, so it would take forever to get anywhere.

dearieme,

trams are for backward-looking idiots. They offer less benefits than buses, and cost more.

If you create bus lanes instead of tramways, you gain the same benefit, but in addition, the buses can also go on the roads, which trams cannot.

Same as roads. If buses and freight ran on dedicated roads, you would have a proper integrated transport network. Freight would travel not from depot to depot and then have to be transported, but could run on the dedicated road, and then straight off to the local road for the final part of the delivery.

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