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Old soldier wins first round of fire battle - Newspaper Edition - Times Online

A RETIRED army captain yesterday won the right to sue police who he claims prevented him rescuing heirlooms from his burning home.
Edmund Carlisle, 83, is demanding compensation from Dyfed-Powys Police after the fire destroyed his 16th-century home on the Welsh borders, causing £723,000 of damage. Possessions worth more than £143,000 were also destroyed.
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He and his wife, Rosemary, 82, had dialled 999 and began rescuing furniture and paintings after fire broke out in the boiler room at their farm at Llanigon, near Hay-on-Wye, Powys.
When police arrived they ordered the couple out of the house for their own safety. When Captain Carlisle refused he was arrested and put into the back of a police van.

And I hope he wins - at the sight of a fire the emergency services get all over-excited - I have nearly been arrested twice for ignoring their instructions - when a neighbour's thatched house was alight , only one end was burning and stuff was being pulled out, I tried to walk over to help and was blocked on the road (so I walked across the field) and after a fire in Marlborough they insisted in closing a carpark quarter of a mile away from a fire that had been put out the previous night - I let my displeasure be known...)

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Sadly British police are no longer recruited on ability and now resemble Keystone Cops.

Under Labour, Jobsworths are everywhere. The do nothing and prevent people doing anything either.

It will not stop until Labour are booted out.

here here abc so true

Come on chaps. Be reasonable. Any right minded police officer would prevent a person returning to their burning property to retrieve material possessions. The officers duty is to prevent any life from being endangered or lost. A life really isn't worth a few sentimental belongings.

I understand that nothing can replace his loss, however it is better that he has his own life and can reminisce then his wife having to bury him.

It would be gross negligence on any right minded persons consience sending someone to their potential death in a burning building. It is a fire fighters job to fight fire and save property. Lets leave it to the pros..

abc: Ability has nothing to do with it. It was common sense. As for us doing nothing, clearly you read too many tabloids.

The police are very good at taking on 83 yr old pensioners for heckles, council tax and for having 'views'.

The police are very good at taking on 11 yr old children, banging them up in the slammer and taking their DNA - spectacle wearers are intelectuals and can be identified.

Police plc are the right hand of NuLabour.

52nd: You make the common mistake of blaming the police. The police & law courts simply implement the law passed by the government. The law is an ass... That much I will give you.

"The officers duty is to prevent any life from being endangered or lost"

Dealing with children or the mentally disabled, perhaps, as the police have an arguably greater duty of care... A grown man taking his own actions that are not in themselves unlawful - no.

"it is better that he has his own life"

His life, his decision, not yours. I think I might have made the same decision if some of my prized possessions were in danger. And surely the point he made was that there was no danger at the time - why is a policeman's judgement any better than his?

"It would be gross negligence on any right minded persons consience sending someone to their potential death "

Agreed - the salient point here is 'sending' - if the police ordered him back into the building, they would rightly be in the dock themselves. But no-one is arguing that....

I suspect the arrest in this case was to prevent anyone (him, his wife) sueing in the event of injury - better that a man is arrested falsely, and held while his house burns down in front of him, than the police force be sued afterward. At least, in the mind of the local police authority.

"The law is an ass... That much I will give you"

Well, you certainly aren't wrong there...! ;)

"The police & law courts simply implement the law passed by the government."

As they did in the Soviet Union and the Third Reich.........

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