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Enviro-crime - lets all get dressed up and pretend we are Eliot Ness and The Untouchables

Mother fined for dropping 'a bit of sausage roll' - Telegraph

A single mother has been fined £75 for "littering" after her daughter dropped a piece of sausage roll on the pavement.

Sarah Davies, 20, was feeding Chloe, four, when the roll slipped from her grasp inches from her daughter's mouth and fell to the floor...

“A tiny bit missed her mouth and fell on the floor and seconds later some pigeons flew down and grabbed it. I crossed the road and was approached by two men - at first I thought they were canvassers as they were dressed in tracksuit bottoms.

“But one came up to me, said he was from the council and said I was going to be fined for dropping litter.”

She added: “I felt really small and humiliated. I was treated like I was a criminal. Where is the common sense? It was a small, bite-sized piece - just big enough for her mouth.

“I went back to take a picture of the 'litter’, but it had been gobbled by pigeons. There was no litter there at all.”

Hull City Council confirmed a fixed penalty ticket had been issued by a member of its Environment Crime Unit.

A spokeswoman for Hull City Council said: “The issuing of the fixed penalty notice is the result of the mother’s actions and not as a result of child’s.”

Hull City Council : News and press releases

Hull City Council is stepping up the battle to tackle enviro-criminals by using the CCTV and covert surveillance equipment.

In a bid to proactively catch enviro-criminals and to reduce anti-social behaviour, Citysafe's Environmental Crime Unit is working with colleagues in the council's CCTV network, Civic One, to obtain footage of environmental crimes..

Already the use of surveillance equipment covertly deployed within neighbourhoods and the Council's CCTV network is starting to make a real difference....n addition, the Council will also make CCTV footage available to the local media to show the crimes in action and to name and shame those involved.

Hull City Council's zero tolerance on environmental crime means that culprits will be dealt with swiftly and strongly.

I wonder if they have a Enviro-crime Thought Police, could they arrest me for just imagining littering the lamp posts of Hull with the bodies of local politicians?


"could they arrest me for just imagining littering the lamp posts of Hull with the bodies of local politicians?"

That's not littering; that's cleaning up, you silly boy.

Unfortunately for my ethnic brothers across the pond, this is what happens when you let the political maggots take away you ability to easily erase them from the ranks of the living. Once they have your guns, it is only a matter of time before the hobnailed boots they use to crush your will to live are replaced with ice climber's crampons.

It's almost like watching a young lad poking a stick in the tigers cage, while the door is unlatched. Once the tiger finds out he can retaliate, the boy is mincemeat.

And they are able to get away with this kind of thing without being tarred and feathered?
The mind, it boggles...
Seriously, what will it take to push the People there over the edge into civil disobedience?
These government boobs only wield this kind of power at the suffrage of the rest of us, who outnumber them greatly.

But in which position is the tiger, and which the miserable little boy? The council isn't comprised of as many people as the populace. I've a feeling that the council may find themselves in the place of the taunting child. I'll stop now, while I can remain civil.


These people are the trues heirs of the National Socialists. They have just succeeded in rendering every citizen/subject a criminal by default: who has not dropped a piece of food. Under these circumstances, if one were to pluck a leaf of grass and drop it a few paces further along the way, he would be criminal.

"Littering" implies that something has been left where it should not be.
Where is the litter? Was she not in fact, feeding the pigeon?

It WOULD be a shame if these two fine gentlement just up and disappeared. Just sayin', that's all.

Theodore Dalrymple has written about this sort of thing. The police are inclined to ignore all the violence and misbehavior of the criminal class and engage in petty tyranny against litterers, speeders, and the like.
There's a clear cut incentive system at work here, unfortunately. This woman probably have been better off if she'd set her baby on the ground, began screaming at and kicking the ticket-writers, and possibly brandishing some kind of weapon. (Although it hardly would have been a good example for the daughter)

Well ... if there is no penalty for real criminality, then an obvious solution suggests itself to me.

Buy a pistol.

Go find a Hull Councilman, and rob him of £75. Then put a bullet in his head. If you get caught, blame the rich, and demand a flat and a pension s compensation.

They want to reduce anti-social behavior? What's more anti-social than a zero tolerance policy of fining someone over dropping a (bio-degradable) bit of sausage?

Mind you now, someone is bound to think your decorating the lamposts with bodies if local politicians is an eye sore and "eye pollution" for which you'll be fined.

I'd stop and take a photo of the lamp decor, but I'd probably be accosted by a police officer, or someone telling me I can't take a picture in a public place, despite the CCTV down the block.

I'd love to come for a visit on vacation, but oh the potential trouble I could get into. Sigh.

There's only really one way of dealing with tin-pot jobsworths like this: bayoneting them so hard that the blade gets stuck in their vertebrae.

CCTV? Covert surveillance equipment? For littering? This is so astonishingly stupid that I'm having trouble imagining it, but I live in America, where things are not so Orwellian. Rope. Tree. Politician. Some assembly required.

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