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Save The Pub

Axe the Beer Tax - Axe the Tax

Our Demands:

# To stop plans to increase beer tax by up to a third

# To enforce existing laws – not create new ones - to deal firmly with irresponsible drinkers and premises
# To end the irresponsible promotion of alcohol in supermarkets, pubs and elsewhere
# To trust responsible adults to make informed choices about what they drink, not punish them for the actions of an irresponsible minority

# To support the British pub as a vital part of social life in local communities.

I think we can all sign up to that.


Aren't options 2 and 3 somewhat at odds? If we are to trust adults to be responsible then how booze is promoted is essentially irrelevant.

"To end the irresponsible promotion of alcohol in supermarkets, pubs and elsewhere"

No, I can't sign up to that at all. It's an awful suggestion, and it's entirely tactically wrong also. It's a call for price fixing, and an "admission" that cheap beer is unacceptable and must be controlled by the state. If Mr Patel wants to try to lure me into his shop with a cut price offer on John Smiths, that's entirely up to him.

You cannot fight the Temperance Movement while simultaneously supporting their analysis of "the problem". You can't have beer freedom while agreeing that beer is bad. No wonder the Temperance Movement keep bloody winning all the time.

Until we start standing up and saying "it is a citizen's natural right to get shitfaced" they will win every time. It's like people just don't get what is happening. They really think, even these campaigners, that they're involved in some kind of rational discussion. That's not so. We're up against zealots, and they must not be compromised with, because that is how they move ever forward- compromise by compromise.

It's no business of the state what people drink. IF they commit a crime while drunk, fine, arrest them for that. But drunkenness itself is not a matter for the law, let alone deliberate price fixing and sundry regulation.

No, no, no.

Number 3 means "shackle my competitors so that I get an easy ride"

This is not the way of freedom and it just makes you like every other big company - lobbying the state to erect barriers and make life hard for everyone else. Not the answer!

My commentators are as ever far more cleverer than I am - of course Number 3 is simple poujadism and is unsupportable for the reasons given. I must admit I had skimmed over that as I quickly put the post together.

Beer to 30% of the current price for starters.

"it is a citizen's natural right to get shitfaced"

I just realised that, perhaps due to spending too long writing code, I started numbering at 0. So, I should have said "3 and 4 are incompatible."

I'd replace #3 (which treats people like infants) with "get rid of the smoking ban and replace it with a requirement for pubs to inform people if they are entering a smoking establishment".

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