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Hot Air Madness

Wind Observation Map - Britain shows that locally the wind speed is 2mph, and that is measured at a hilltop aerodrome (Lynham), and it is similar across the whole country. That is a feature of very hot and very cold weather, the wind doesn't blow. So none of the expensive power generating whirlygigs will be working as a million fans and air conditioning units turn on this morning.

So I'm pleased to note the BBC is reporting:

Wind has the power to revolutionise the UK's electricity industry, according to a study published on Wednesday.
Research from analysts Poyry says that the UK can massively expand wind power by 2030 without suffering power cuts or a melt-down of the National Grid.
The cost of electricity would then be determined not by consumer demand, but by how hard the wind is blowing.
When it is windy power will be so cheap that other forms of generation will be unable to compete, the report says.
If the wind were to drop everywhere round the UK (as happened during the January high pressure cold snap), other generators would make their money by switching on back-up fossil fuel power stations for a very short time, charging extremely high prices, it predicts.
The study bases its assumptions on current levels of subsidy. It concludes that thanks to the wind subsidy through the "Renewable Obligations Certificates" issued by regulator Ofgem, electricity prices would be negative if the wind were blowing hard.
The study amplifies a recent paper from National Grid itself stating that a move towards wind power would not necessitate widespread investment in expensive back-up power plants fuelled by gas or coal.
This is a key finding which helps remove one of the main barriers to the advance of wind (although some will remain sceptical).
But it comes with a warning. Dr Hare said: "It will cost more. There is no such thing as cheap green power - that is a myth."
The authors of a report from the Royal Society this week made the same point. But politicians are still reluctant to pass on this message to the public.

Madness, sheer bloody madness. I need to invest in a diesel generator.

Comments

If individual people want to go and install a small turbine, for their use (many farmers round here have one, about 7-10 kW, as it's perennially windy by just the right amount) then fine.

But I think the journo who wrote the bit you quoted, must have been smoking something exotic. Specially the fun bit about "turning on fossil-fuelled stations for a short time and charging high prices"...that really brought a smile to my poor old face. Don't think he's quite aware of even how long it takes - if you are "out cold" - to get to "hot stand-by", let alone "spinning-reserve"....

"I need to invest in a diesel generator. "

Suggest you buy one, or several, now. Because as soon as the greenies figure out that people are circumventing the unreliable high-cost national grid by using their own generators all hell will break lose.

Personal generators using othr than wind or solar will be outlawed. Remember wood stoves, promoted because they heated using "renewable" fuel? Being banned now - seems wood gives off CO2 (and other, worse, stuff) when burned...

I am scared that National Grid is promoting this junk. Not surprised, but scared. My electricity here in Rhode Island, USA is supplied by, yes, National Grid.

On the morning you posted I was crawling through roadworks past the wind turbine on the Herts stretch of the M25 and noticed that it was turning very slowly despite the lack of wind. I wondered whether this could be a powered turn to prevent bearing and blade damage caused by remaining static. A little Googling shows this to be true: www.aweo.org/windconsumption.html.

So rather than providing zero power the white elephants ^w turbines are actually consuming power - ironically relying on the fossil and nuclear plants they are supposed to one day replace.

"The study bases its assumptions on current levels of subsidy. It concludes that thanks to the wind subsidy through the "Renewable Obligations Certificates" issued by regulator Ofgem, electricity prices would be negative if the wind were blowing hard."

If you had high enough fossil fuel subsidies gasoline would be "negatively" priced at the pumps as well. What a bunch of assholes hiding the true costs by hiding them in your tax bill.

That ranks right up there with the NHS being "free health care". Now I'm stuck with an American government deciding to follow in your shoes on health care and "renewable energy". Thanks for not killing of this virus before it had a chance to spread to us.

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