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Pesky PR Foils Scientists

Global warning: climate sceptics are winning the battle - Climate Change, Environment - The Independent

Father of the green movement says scientists lack PR skills to make public listen

Climate sceptics are winning the argument with the public over global warming, the world's most celebrated climate scientist, James Hansen of NASA, said in London yesterday.

It is happening even though climate science itself is becoming ever clearer in showing that the earth is in increasing danger from rising temperatures, said Dr Hansen...

Part of the problem, he said, was that the climate sceptic lobby employed communications professionals, whereas "scientists are just barely competent at communicating with the public and don't have the wherewithal to do it."

The result was, he said, that in recent years "a gap has opened between what is understood about global warming by the relevant scientific community, and what's known by the people who need to know – and that's the public. However there's nothing that has happened to reduce our scientific conclusion that we are pushing the system into very dangerous territory, in fact that conclusion has become stronger over that same time period."

The Independent's comment system is open, much to the disgust of some...

Why oh why does the Independent invite these ridiculous comments from readers on an article like this? By doing so, you are actively undermining climate science and fuelling the idea that climate sceptics have some sort of actual point worth listening to - as opposed to being, from these comments at least, a bunch of rude, ill-informed, bored, and slightly crazy in some cases pedants with nothing better to do but leap on every article of this sort and bore the rest of us to tears with their random nonsense.

Meanwhile, in the real world, climate change is happening. Pacific nations are running out of drinking water. I honestly don't know how the editors of the Independent sleep at night.

Get rid of these stupid comments pages from your new stories and do the quality of journalism and the world a favour!


"James Hansen of NASA, said in London yesterday"? Is this the same James Hansen who was so badly savaged by the relocation of the measuring devices that GISS depended on for the infamous hockey stick graphs?

It could be that they are losing the argument because they have tried to obey their political masters with rather bad science.

The commenter is right you know.

After all if it wasn't for open comments we'd be faced with propaganda article after article with the global warming/ AGW/ "whatever they are calling it this month" point of view with no where to point out that the science is - at best - inconclusive and contradictory.

The fact that a handful of websites, some personal blogs and comments on article are sufficient to keep this steam roller from getting any momentum should be a pretty big hint that the steam rollers position isn't all that.

As to losing the PR battle... the PR battle would be handily "won" if one side didn't keep looking like dirigiste, tone deaf, secretive, lying, defensive, quick to annoy, prats basing their position on "trust us" and promising a complete rework of our entire society based on what reasonably appears to most people as marginalia into what appears to be some socialist poverty stricken utopia governed by the "bien pensant" geniuses who everywhere else in the world have quickly turned to mass murder and wickedness to enforce their schemes when people tired of their plans.

Dude. 100 years (& 100 million dead)of your people's promises and threats and we're starting to cotton on to your intentions. sod off.

It would be interesting to see a comparison of the spend by "the evil sceptics" and "the righteous believers" on PR. My money is on the latter outspending the former by orders of magnitude.

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